Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
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Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
by red states rule Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:32 am
I guess he feels the $600 wasn't enough. Now he wants $1000 income redistribution to help pay for high energy prices.
This is going to become the norm under an Obama administration. Instead of just cutting taxes to enable the citizens to keep more of their own cash, he will tax the shit out of middle and upper class, and redistribute it to the poor via "rebates" whenever they feel like. Milk prices too high? $700 "rebate" for everyone.
This is a very disturbing trend coming out of Washington.
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ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Friday called for a $1,000 "emergency" rebate to consumers to offset soaring energy costs amid fresh signs of a struggling economy with the nation's unemployment rate climbing to a four-year high.
Obama told a town-hall meeting the rebate would be financed with a windfall profits tax on the oil industry.
"This rebate will be enough to offset the increased cost of gas for a working family over the next four months," Obama said in the crucial swing state of Florida.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama
This is going to become the norm under an Obama administration. Instead of just cutting taxes to enable the citizens to keep more of their own cash, he will tax the shit out of middle and upper class, and redistribute it to the poor via "rebates" whenever they feel like. Milk prices too high? $700 "rebate" for everyone.
This is a very disturbing trend coming out of Washington.
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ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Friday called for a $1,000 "emergency" rebate to consumers to offset soaring energy costs amid fresh signs of a struggling economy with the nation's unemployment rate climbing to a four-year high.
Obama told a town-hall meeting the rebate would be financed with a windfall profits tax on the oil industry.
"This rebate will be enough to offset the increased cost of gas for a working family over the next four months," Obama said in the crucial swing state of Florida.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama
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Re: Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
by Pale Rider Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:57 pm
How long is it going to take for someone like Rush or Hannity to label this hussein a communist? I mean that's what the guy is.
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Re: Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
by red states rule Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:01 pm
He is getting the heat - and more and ore people are showing what an idiot he really is
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Re: Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
by Noir Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:04 pm
Pale Rider wrote:How long is it going to take for someone like Rush or Hannity to label this hussein a communist? I mean that's what the guy is.
Well if they are good political brocasters then they won't obama is a socailistbut nowhere near a communist, for anyone to state he is is either being niace or foolish
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Re: Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
by Pale Rider Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:42 am
Noir wrote:Pale Rider wrote:How long is it going to take for someone like Rush or Hannity to label this hussein a communist? I mean that's what the guy is.
Well if they are good political brocasters then they won't obama is a socailistbut nowhere near a communist, for anyone to state he is is either being nice or foolish
The guy is a socialist and a buffoon. If you think he's anything different, please go ahead and convince me with some for instance I can see.
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Re: Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
by Noir Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:36 pm
I agree with you, I'm just satin he's not a commie.
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Re: Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
by Pale Rider Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:24 pm
Noir wrote:I agree with you, I'm just satin he's not a commie.
He's real close. He's a big government socialist that believes everyone is too damn STUPID to make their own decisions. He believes the government should dictate from womb to tomb everything you can and can't do in your life, and that you should give the government ALL your money, because again, you're just too damn stupid to know what to do with it. You need HIM to TELL you. How much different is that from communism?
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Re: Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
by Noir Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:54 am
but he doesn't want you to give him all of you money, he may well want to increase taxes, but does he want to replace individual wages with set wages? Does he want to create a one party state with no ellectons? Does he want to abolish religion within America? Does he want to abolish big bussiness and replace it with nationlised state owned bussiness?
Those are only a few points of the top of my head, I'm sure there areciuntless other differences, yes he is a socialist but he is not a commie.
Those are only a few points of the top of my head, I'm sure there areciuntless other differences, yes he is a socialist but he is not a commie.
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by Pale Rider Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:19 pm
Noir wrote:but he doesn't want you to give him all of you money, he may well want to increase taxes, but does he want to replace individual wages with set wages? Does he want to create a one party state with no ellectons? Does he want to abolish religion within America? Does he want to abolish big bussiness and replace it with nationlised state owned bussiness?
Those are only a few points of the top of my head, I'm sure there areciuntless other differences, yes he is a socialist but he is not a commie.
He WOULD if he COULD. Liberals have to take baby steps to total socialism. They can't do it all in one full sweep. But doubt not, they're working on it.
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Re: Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
by Noir Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:14 pm
then wouldn't most of Europe be communist? As we regularly have socaist partys in powder for long term times?
It's a minor point and I don't want it to sollow up the real debate on this issue, but he is not a commie he is a socialist.
It's a minor point and I don't want it to sollow up the real debate on this issue, but he is not a commie he is a socialist.
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by Pale Rider Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:47 pm
Noir wrote:then wouldn't most of Europe be communist? As we regularly have socaist partys in powder for long term times?
It's a minor point and I don't want it to sollow up the real debate on this issue, but he is not a commie he is a socialist.
It's a very fine line between socialism and communism my friend.
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Re: Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
by red states rule Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:53 pm
Pale Rider wrote:Noir wrote:then wouldn't most of Europe be communist? As we regularly have socaist partys in powder for long term times?
It's a minor point and I don't want it to sollow up the real debate on this issue, but he is not a commie he is a socialist.
It's a very fine line between socialism and communism my friend.
Maybe that is the unity Obama is talking about
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Re: Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
by Noir Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:07 pm
Pale Rider wrote:Noir wrote:then wouldn't most of Europe be communist? As we regularly have socaist partys in powder for long term times?
It's a minor point and I don't want it to sollow up the real debate on this issue, but he is not a commie he is a socialist.
It's a very fine line between socialism and communism my friend.
No there isn't, it's a very very broadline, this isn't even worth debate, yes he is a socialist, but that doesn't make him a commie. To state that all socialists are commies is unwise and clearly wrong.
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Re: Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
by red states rule Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:14 pm
Noir wrote:Pale Rider wrote:Noir wrote:then wouldn't most of Europe be communist? As we regularly have socaist partys in powder for long term times?
It's a minor point and I don't want it to sollow up the real debate on this issue, but he is not a commie he is a socialist.
It's a very fine line between socialism and communism my friend.
No there isn't, it's a very very broadline, this isn't even worth debate, yes he is a socialist, but that doesn't make him a commie. To state that all socialists are commies is unwise and clearly wrong.
Need I remind you Pres Peanut Carter had a windfall profits tax in the late 70's
All it did was drive up the price at the pump, caused oil production to dcline, and the folks got screwed over
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Re: Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
by Pale Rider Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:56 am
Noir wrote:Pale Rider wrote:Noir wrote:then wouldn't most of Europe be communist? As we regularly have socaist partys in powder for long term times?
It's a minor point and I don't want it to sollow up the real debate on this issue, but he is not a commie he is a socialist.
It's a very fine line between socialism and communism my friend.
No there isn't, it's a very very broadline, this isn't even worth debate, yes he is a socialist, but that doesn't make him a commie. To state that all socialists are commies is unwise and clearly wrong.
Then here ya go my friend... tell me WHY? Don't just "say so," TELL ME WHY...
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Re: Obama wants $1000 "energy rebates" for all
by red states rule Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:40 am
Pale Rider wrote:Noir wrote:Pale Rider wrote:How long is it going to take for someone like Rush or Hannity to label this hussein a communist? I mean that's what the guy is.
Well if they are good political brocasters then they won't obama is a socailistbut nowhere near a communist, for anyone to state he is is either being nice or foolish
The guy is a socialist and a buffoon. If you think he's anything different, please go ahead and convince me with some for instance I can see.
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